If you have been browsing the various torrent sites, you would have seen the torrent of Evangelion 1.0 (You Are Not Alone). The movie has been leaked on Stage6 too. Apparently, it’s a video camera recording of the movie. It is suspected that the one behind this is an insider.
Just like many other anime movies, the Evangelion movie’s leak was no surprise. Past movies which have been leaked before the official DVD release include Tales of Earthsea and Cowboy Bebop : Knocking on Heaven’s Door. As long as there is the Internet, such leaks will be unpreventable. Even though Japan has an extremely strict law on video recording in cinemas, such incidents still occur.
An issue that puzzles me regarding this incident would be why the insider has decided to leak the movie online. I don’t see how his/her actions would bring any benefit. The only thing gained would be the risk of getting charged and losing the job. This is one thing that only that insider would know.
One thought that struck me was that the leak was committed to cause the DVD sales suffer. Why would most people bother buying the DVD if they have the softcopy of the movie months before the DVD is released? Still, I don’t see any benefit the culprit would get, unless he/she was paid to do so.
On the other hand, if the movie was leaked in the form of a DVD rip, it would not be as bad as the a pre-release leak. At least you know that one person out there has bought the DVD.
I have differing thoughts on this leak. As an anime fan, I would be more than happy to welcome a leak, as it means that I would not have to wait for the DVD release before I can watch the movie. However, as an Evangelion fan, I am against this leak. Which true fan would like to see his/her favourite series being leaked illegally? Such leaks are an insult towards the series, and I’m sure any fan would be outraged to know that his favourite series has been insulted.
The damage has already been done, so I don’t see how the situation can be improved except for nabbing the culprit. As much as I want to watch the upcoming Evangelion 2.0 as early as possible, I truly hope that there would not be such an incident repeated.
In the meantime, I shall wait for the Evangelion 1.0 DVD to be released in Spring, before I get my chance to purchase it and fully enjoy the footage on my 26 inch Samsung screen. I hope it gets released with some attractive first press goodies ^^
It’s a cinema rip, who the hell would want to watch that crappy quality?! The work of art (as in animation quality) is worth atleast DVD print, if not 1080p!
Perhaps we’ll see a DVD leak like we did for Advent Children XD
Also, you sure as hell can bet that for 2.0 there will be a pre-release leak as well.
I don’t think the motivation for the leaker was monetary; but perhaps just for the fans who haven’t seen it yet…
Those who want to buy the movie will get the DVD regardless of this leak.
mmmm, delicious cams.
Too bad I don’t care about Eva to give a hoot.
I totally have to agree with deathberry on this issue.. honestly, cam recordings are generally so bad that they’re more like a preview than the actual film and you don’t receive any satisfaction in the slightest. I think that if you can stand to watch a cam (which I can’t), it should give you a general idea of how good the film is/isn’t and although you won’t enjoy that much, you’ll know whether you want to watch the DVD.
There’s no way that the leaker is going to gain anything from this other than possibly some rep (which I don’t think is something people really give a damn about on the pirate scene). It’s likely about the risk and/or just wanting other people to enjoy the movie.
Honestly, cam recordings hardly affect the film industry which can be shown by how cams of pretty much every Hollywood film gets leaked days after they premier and they haven’t tightened security or started doing random checks on employees. No one who’s actually enjoyed a cam of a movie is likely to want to give DVD/HD quality a miss, and very few people even bother with cam recordings anyway - those who do, generally never planned on getting the DVD.
And sorry, but I think your claim about DVDRips being better to be false as they can be enjoyed just as much as purchasing the DVD and thus, only EVA fans (like yourself and a hell of a lot of Japanese) would buy the DVD after watching the rip. I’ve watched plenty of DVDRips and never felt like buying the DVDs except for presentational value (including boxart, additional nice artwork and/or extras). I’m likely to start buying blu-ray movies now that I’ve got a ps3 as there is big difference in quality (probably more with normal movies than anime) and there’s no way I’m downloading 4-5GB for a single movie (which I’d need a better PC to convert properly anyway).
But, you’ve got to realise that people like us, in the middle of the anime scene, know a lot more about downloading and watching videos (as well as torrents) than the majority so we aren’t a major impact - though I admit we probably piss the makers off a bit. :/
And keep in mind that people in Japan release high quality rips of anime immediately after airing yet the Japanese still buy all the DVDs, pencilboards, posters, artbooks, plushies, figures, pillowcases, manga, cards, etc. so I doubt the leak will affect the movie’s DVD and merchandise sales much.
While the leak will no doubt after sales, it might not be as bad as one might think. I’ve watched the video cam rip of Advent Children, I’ve watched the DVD rip of Advent Children, and I bought the DVD for Advent Children.
Likewise, I’m still getting the DVD of EVA, leak or not.
Mark > I do know that video camera recordings wouldn’t affect the film industry. Just take a look at some of the torrent sites. There are so many films leaked each day, but the films still make money.
I think my part on the DVD leaks was phrased in a way which caused you to misunderstand what I mean. The DVDs leaks I mentioned are DVD rips that are distributed online after the official DVD has been released in the market. With a DVD rip, there has to be someone who has bought the DVD in order to rip,and by doing so, supported the industry in a way, whereas for video recordings, the anime industry is not supported in anyway.
“I do know that video camera recordings wouldn’t affect the film industry ~ There are so many films leaked each day, but the films still make money.”
I mentioned that in my last comment, as well. It’s kind of a contradiction to what I was responding to:
“One thought that struck me was that the leak was committed to cause the DVD sales suffer. Why would most people bother buying the DVD if they have the softcopy of the movie months before the DVD is released?”
I understood what you meant about DVDRips but, personally, I don’t see how one person purchasing a DVD and then distributing it for free can be in any way beneficial to the industry as one purchase (about $20? It’s £10-£15 here) is possibly stopping thousands of people from purchasing. This is more damaging than a cam recording as, although the leaker hasn’t given anything to the industry, no where near as many people will watch the cam, and some that do will buy the DVD just to watch it in good quality.
Either way, I feel that the ratio of people who watch ripped or leaked movies is far lower than those who only buy DVDs (including BluRay, HDDVD and legally downloaded movies) so it shouldn’t do much harm overall.
DVD sales suffering might not necessarily mean not making money. They might just be making less money.
And about the camera recording or DVD rip issue, I guess you could say it’s how you view it. There’s no absolute right or wrong opinion.
If the ripped copies circulated online put the various film production companies into the red financial zone, the various IP protecting organizations would have taken more serious action against this issue.
Love your logic up there:
Leaks are unpreventable and expectable. I truly hope there will be no repeated incident.
You’re completely missing out parts of my comments. I said that DVDRips damage sales more than cams but I also said that I don’t believe either one is large scale enough to really affect the production industries.
Sure, a lot of things come down to opinion, but I can’t see how one person that purchases something simply to allow other people to view it without paying is at all benefiting the industry.
If a DVDRip is at all more popular than a cam recording (eg 1000 people watching it against 995 people watching a cam, though it’s probably more like 5000:200) that already means that the DVDRip has lost the production company more money regardless of one person paying for it (and I’m not saying a lot compared to the money they make). As long as you believe people are more likely to watch a DVDRip than a cam, then you have to agree the DVDRip is more common and thus, has lost more money.
But, lol, this discussion’s gotten a bit long. <.<
Alright alright, LOL
Both DVD rips and Camera Recording suck. The final verdict? Support the industry, buy original DVDs. I guess it’s one obvious point which we both fully agree on.
Sorry, but as much as I would like to go on, my brain isn’t functioning. Too much studying for the exams, apparently…
watching at the cinema would be the best. haha you are one true evangelion fan =D
ive been thinking about it but does supporting the industry mean that you must buy it 1st hand?
can buying original goods 2nd hand be considered as supporting the industry?
2nd hand goods would have to depend. As long as the money goes back to the industry, I see it as a form of support. In most cases, this is the case, where anime fans are trying to clear their old stuff to make space, and possibly cash for the new releases.
However, in cases where the person is trying to quit the hobby, and use the cash he earns from the second hand goods sold for something outside the circle of the anime industry, I wouldn’t see it as support.
To be honest, I thought of the cam rip was more of a marketing strategy on the part of Gainax, since Evangelion fans who thought it’s just a souped up version of the series wouldn’t buy the DVD.
Take myself for example; Buying the DVD didn’t cross my mind initially, as I had that abovementioned thought. Until I’ve actually caught clips of it did I know that it was actually that awesome (for a cam rip). It made me WANT to get the DVD. The entire movie was revoiced, and only after watching the clips do I truely appreciate and yearn for a DVD to watch it on.