Take myself for example; Buying the DVD didn’t cross my mind initially, as I had that abovementioned thought. Until I’ve actually caught clips of it did I know that it was actually that awesome (for a cam rip). It made me WANT to get the DVD. The entire movie was revoiced, and only after watching the clips do I truely appreciate and yearn for a DVD to watch it on.

However, in cases where the person is trying to quit the hobby, and use the cash he earns from the second hand goods sold for something outside the circle of the anime industry, I wouldn’t see it as support.

can buying original goods 2nd hand be considered as supporting the industry?

Both DVD rips and Camera Recording suck. The final verdict? Support the industry, buy original DVDs. I guess it’s one obvious point which we both fully agree on.

Sorry, but as much as I would like to go on, my brain isn’t functioning. Too much studying for the exams, apparently…

Sure, a lot of things come down to opinion, but I can’t see how one person that purchases something simply to allow other people to view it without paying is at all benefiting the industry.

If a DVDRip is at all more popular than a cam recording (eg 1000 people watching it against 995 people watching a cam, though it’s probably more like 5000:200) that already means that the DVDRip has lost the production company more money regardless of one person paying for it (and I’m not saying a lot compared to the money they make). As long as you believe people are more likely to watch a DVDRip than a cam, then you have to agree the DVDRip is more common and thus, has lost more money.

But, lol, this discussion’s gotten a bit long. <.<

Leaks are unpreventable and expectable. I truly hope there will be no repeated incident.

And about the camera recording or DVD rip issue, I guess you could say it’s how you view it. There’s no absolute right or wrong opinion.

If the ripped copies circulated online put the various film production companies into the red financial zone, the various IP protecting organizations would have taken more serious action against this issue.

I mentioned that in my last comment, as well. It’s kind of a contradiction to what I was responding to:

“One thought that struck me was that the leak was committed to cause the DVD sales suffer. Why would most people bother buying the DVD if they have the softcopy of the movie months before the DVD is released?”

I understood what you meant about DVDRips but, personally, I don’t see how one person purchasing a DVD and then distributing it for free can be in any way beneficial to the industry as one purchase (about $20? It’s £10-£15 here) is possibly stopping thousands of people from purchasing. This is more damaging than a cam recording as, although the leaker hasn’t given anything to the industry, no where near as many people will watch the cam, and some that do will buy the DVD just to watch it in good quality.

Either way, I feel that the ratio of people who watch ripped or leaked movies is far lower than those who only buy DVDs (including BluRay, HDDVD and legally downloaded movies) so it shouldn’t do much harm overall.

I think my part on the DVD leaks was phrased in a way which caused you to misunderstand what I mean. The DVDs leaks I mentioned are DVD rips that are distributed online after the official DVD has been released in the market. With a DVD rip, there has to be someone who has bought the DVD in order to rip,and by doing so, supported the industry in a way, whereas for video recordings, the anime industry is not supported in anyway.